VT RADIO: Swier vs. Barrett – Gaza Invasion Heated Debate – Who’s The Real Enemy?

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American Christian Zionist Dr. Rich Swier engages with VT’s Senior Editor Dr. Kevin Barrett in a heated debate on the INVASION OF GAZA by the US/Israeli Zionist Coalition that is currently delivering death blows to over 9000 human beings including over 4500 children in what they want to sell as “defense”.


Dr. Rich Swier has a Doctorate of Education from the University of Southern California in Los Angeles, CA, a Master’s Degree in Management Information Systems from the George Washington University, Washington, D.C., and a Bachelor’s Degree in Fine Arts from Washington University, St. Louis, MO. Rich is a 23-year Army veteran who retired as a Lieutenant Colonel in 1990.

Dr. Kevin Barrett, a Ph.D. Arabist-Islamologist is one of America’s best-known critics of the War on Terror. He is the host of TRUTH JIHAD RADIO; a hard-driving weekly radio show funded by listener subscriptions at Substack and the weekly news roundup FALSE FLAG WEEKLY NEWS (FFWN). He also has appeared many times on Fox, CNN, PBS, and other broadcast outlets, and has inspired feature stories and op-eds in the New York Times, the Christian Science Monitor, the Chicago Tribune, and other leading publications. Dr. Barrett has taught at colleges and universities in San Francisco, Paris, and Wisconsin; where he ran for Congress in 2008. He currently works as a nonprofit organizer, author, and talk radio host.

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  1. I appreciated the opportunity to be on VT Radio with Dr. Barrett.

    I believe at the end of our at time heated conversation Dr. Barrett agreed with me.

    Hope all will listed to this important debate between a pro-Islamist and me.

  2. Dr. Swier was so disruptive I gave up listening. My impression is that when people run out of ideas they resort to disruption.

  3. Johnny Punish needs to learn how to use the mute button. Swier interruptive ramblings destroy any semblance of debate or conversation. But, I do like Dr Swier’s after show comment “Dr. Barrett agreed with me”

  4. Why oh why does VT continue to allow “Dr ” Swier to spill his garbage here? I have no say so I guess the powers that be will allow him to continue. I am willing to bet that Swier is in with the group that wants WW3 so that Jesus could return to elevate Israel to glory, problem is they don’t believe in Jesus. All Swier can do is interrupt and talk over Barrett because he has nothing intelligent to say. How Swier and Lindsey Graham are allowed to roam this earth spewing their hate and garbage baffles me. How I long for the sixties and seventies when people knew how to fix problems.

  5. I was having tech trouble with my microphone and was unable to control the conversation.
    We actually considered NOT AIRING this debate for that very reason
    But, in the end, VT Senior Leadership preferred it be presented
    So there’s that…

  6. I listened on Youtube right when it came out. A really horrible “debate”.
    You are not supposed to get all emotional and attack your opponent in debates calling them satanical etc.
    But Kevin just could not hold himself back – dont blame him when Swier cackled like the condenscending demon that he is…

    Swier showed his true colors, which is death to Arabs and Israel always in the right.
    Supposed to be a debate about Hamas but more a ridiculous food fight of dried up shit.

    Funny (not) how its the victims who are always to blame for their own murders by Israel.
    “Likud (Netanyahu) gave Gaza to the Palestinians” (while it was God that gave “greater Israel” to the Jewish state because they are Jewish?)
    “So many good peaceful Jewish farmers were kicked out ot Gaza”
    That statement really made me retch.
    (Swier’s personal “projection” of the 750,000 Palestineans kicked out of their homes by force in the Nahkba)
    And the Nahkba “blamed” on the Arab countries for the war that started when Israel began the massive ethnic cleansing in 1948 and the siezing of the west bank by UIsrael in their “victory:”.

    Its Always “blame the victims” the No1 “rebuttal tactic” of pro-Israel propagandists.

    It always goes like that when repeating the Israeli government talking points.

    Swiers “shocking” opening dialog about putting babies in ovens, beheading them, etc the 5000 executed in Hue in Vietnam, (while the USA carpet bombs with napalm kills hundreds of thousands a week) the total insanity of his mind came right out in the open very quickly, nobody of sane mind can take the lunatic serious unless of similar insane demonic kill them all they deserve it mindset.
    Really sickening….
    Why is this guy allowed to post articles on VT is a big question what does he have over the “senior leadership”?
    Perhaps a deal made that the government censors will not attack the uncensored nature of VT “too badly” as long as he is allowed to post his articles?
    I can see why Gordon Dugg and Jim Dean left now.
    Shrimpleton is bad enough at least he is intelligent and witty and funny “motormouth” although same mindset of “flatten Gaza” and dont worry about the children they are going to grow up to be terrorists like their parents so best to “mow the lawn now” eh. (not)

  7. Hi Dr Swier
    I think you and Dr Barret agreed that neither one wants to “see bloodshed”
    Well, I guess you wont “have to see the bloodshed: when people (CHILDREN by the thousands): killed by “humanitarians and targeted airstrikes on HAMAS” and the approx 4000 children killed were pulverized into nothing and/or buried under the rubble.
    shed”
    Such a “clean” way to kill children is it not? Nobody resorts to beheading or putting babies in ovens or ripping them out of incubators, or cutting open pregnant women etc etc

    So that makes it OK you can put the lives of thousands of INNOCENT children killed by Israeli airstrikes way in the back of your mind and not feel one bit guilty about it – and feeling guilty – what perhaps you should feele guilty about – would be your public proclomations that HAMAS deserves all this death dealt on their Children and families.
    Are you trying to persuade the public to think like you do?
    Is that the reason for posting on VT and doing this public debate?
    Persuasion to join your gay death parade of killing Children now that are going to grow up to be Islamic terrorists anyways?

  8. After interviewing and listening to many American Zionist Christians, I have come to the conclusion that they are 100% okay with the murder of ALL THESE PEOPLE and YES, INCLUDING THE CHILDREN because it’s a means to an end; an end of days; which is what they orgasm over. This is why when asked about the murder of these children they get that glazed look and don’t answer, and then change the direction of the conversation. They don’t want the world to know that they APPROVE OF IT 100% and are in their pews cheering and praying for it.

    Yes, insane serial killers! That’s that definition. I call them SMILING WITH A SWORD.

    The best I can do is call them out publicly and maybe write that song “Smiling with Sword”. They will need to be marginalized again in the USA and sent back to the corners of society. If not, I honestly believe, within the USA, we will end up in a direct physical war with them.

    I hope not but you see how they are… this a rabid cause for them; a crusade and they will fight for it. So there’s that…no joke at all.

  9. You got all of it right except the Gordon and Jim thing.

    Gordon got in an motocycle accident; pretty rough on him and his wife. Then, the Russia Ukraine war got started and I was forced by government censors to put disclosures on posts about Russia or Google would ban us. I had to take action to protect VT. Gordon really hated it and would not comply. And really, that was it as far as I am aware. It had nothing to do with Zionists or Palestine. That was back in May 2021 I think?

    Jim? He had some personal family issues and it was his time to move on. Both are in their 80s I believe. No animosities at all whatsover.

    Yeah, Gordon can be caustic, but that’s Gordon; you gotta take the good with the bad with a gent like him. Overall, he’s a great guy who cares deeply and that you gotta respect. Remember, he was on VT for 14 years… a pretty long time. So I see that as grateful and good.

    Jim? He’s pretty amiable. A good man. He had a great long run on VT. But time goes and things change… and the world keeps on going.
    I hope this better explains.

  10. MY fault, mostly. I was having tech trouble with my microphone and thus was unable to control the conversation. We actually considered NOT AIRING this debate for that very reason. But, in the end, VT Senior Leadership preferred it be presented, So there’s that…

  11. I too went into Hue for that same battle. I too was in the 101st Abn. One of my good buddies was with the Third Marines who took the citadel there in early spring orf 1968 during the Tet offensive. Later, in New York, I was introduced to two senior international judges during the War Crimes Tribunal against Bush & Co. for the invasion of Iraq by former Attorney General Ramsay Clark. The U.S. invasion of Vietnam was a war crime, and that is the first war crime. Thereafter all crimes devolving from our invasion, whether committed by the enemy, which I don’t condone in any way, are secondary war crimes. I saw enough killing of civilians for pure retaliatory measures during my one and a half years in combat there. I left the army in disgust. I cannot in any way understand why anyone in their right mind would want to re-up in that army and stay on for 22 years. This to me is a bad case of unresolved PTSD. Dr Swier, forgive me for saying so, but please seek professional help. And truly surrender to Jesus Christ, for he would never forgive what we did in ‘Nam, nor what Israel is doing now to the Palestinians.

  12. Hi Johnny
    OK thanks for information, I know about Gordons motorcycle accident with his wife on the back of the motorcycle too….everything must still hurt – he posts occasionally on TID…..his archives are awesome to pull out information from, like the nukes used on twin towers.

  13. honorable dr. Barrett has wasted his energy debating this zionist lier who is spreading false israeli lies. don’t waist your energy and your valuable time on him, concentrate on the real issue; israel’s genocide of palestinian. Johnny allowing this this zionist swier on vt under any excuse is very shameful.

  14. once and for all HAMAS IS A FREEDOM FIGHTER GROUP AGAINST ZIONIST ISRAHELL. hamas fighters are the sons and daughters of many palestinian victim of israeli terror. they are the third generation of palestinian victims of hundreds of israeli massacres throughout the last 75 years. condemning this freedom fighters group and encouraging israeli genocide make you a partner in the israeli war crimes, go join biden and his american administration war criminals who give israel billions of our tax money and million tons of bombs to flatten gaza to the ground

  15. @Johnny Punish, GM
    Yes, it was old good time! I’m probably 5 years with VT and I’m addicted to VT.

  16. It’s always Hegel’s dialectic: Thesis – antithesis – synthesis, paired with Machiavellism and the Nazi doctrine; “the end justifies the means”.

  17. I really can’t follow a debate with between a complete lyng axxxole, that being this Swier and the respectable Kevin Barret. I’m still scratching my head as to what could possibly this self important mor’n be doing in VT. Why don’t you guys bring in IDK may be John Hagee and Jhonathan Greenblat too?